It's a conscious unmanifest void. I believe there are rules against making straight-up omnipotence vs omnipotence rumbles, yes? More History; Done. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. Next Last. So The Presence, The Source, The Overmonitor/Overvoid are all the same being (supposedly). I was joking about Zeno omnipotent thing. Games Movies TV Video. ignore omnipotent statements and ignore writer interpretations as so many verses would stalemate doing so. Still below that of the Dc writer. The Presence and The Overmonitor might be the same as well. @userthatisme: You are wanking DC, I am not wanking Marvel. The-One-Above-All is a character from Marvel Comics and the God of that universe. Honestly though if you can’t give a list, it’s fine but I also wanna take that as a “DC is the most powerful verse in fiction” type thing. The Primal Monitor is what creation exists within. Lucifer may have escaped creation itself and gone somewhere in the Overvoid, but note that The Overvoid and The Presence are actually related and are the same. The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. The religious cosmology of the multiverse is complex, with many pantheons of gods co-existing alongside each other. Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. Entitäten wie The Voice und The Source sind nur Aspekte von The Presence. Wikis. Nur der Monitor-Geist und Overvoid überschreiten die Präsenz in ihren Existenzebenen. The "Overmonitor" is not a name for the Overvoid. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. You can say that about every marvel fan ever. Some said The Presence written by Neil Gaiman is supreme GOD of DC universe. >Glad we agree that Overvoid is the comic page and Lucifer and The Presence are creations of Nix Uotan, who is the Authors avatar. Definitely not a vs topic. It is the void outside every creation. The Presence is The GOD. Always felt like the presence was the writer himself manifesting into a character in DC. The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. xearesay. Aren't they pretty much the same being? It's a conscious unmanifest void. Snyder is using Kirby's version. would you be able to list some characters able to solo DC? zopzop. The Presence is everywhere but also nowhere at once so no matter how many times Lucifer tries to escape The Presence, just realize The Presence is God and is omnipresent which means he is everywhere, everything, and nowhere at once. It certainly looks like they are above them. The Oversoul id the Presence at his highest. God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles. 40018621 7 mo 10 d . It is not always clear how the Abrahamic God fits in to this scheme - for exampl… The presence more or less is the version he appears to human, good example being Yahweh. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it.The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. 10 months ago. The Presence/The Source is God (in universe), all powerful and controls everything. share. vs Overvoid Cosmic Armor Superman Mandrakk Who wins? The point of battles is to have discussion, and you can’t have a discussion with infinitely powerful characters. Also zeno is not omnipotent by any means I doubt he could handle any of marvel or dcs God tiers. From the verse he is considered the god above all others. Why would we agree on something that there's no proof of? In the history of the DC Universe, the Presence is the fictionalized counterpart to the Godof the Abrahamic (but mostly Christian) religions. So is The Source, The Oversoul, etc. Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. Aren’t they the readers? Follow 1820. Overvoid > The Presence. @xearesay prove you don’t troll. In Neil Gaimans cosmology. They're an infinite white canvas (which is the blank page of a comic book) the collective DC "story" (aka the omniverse and all DC properties together) is an ink splotch on said canvas. DeMattes' Presence / Kirby's Source / Morrison's Overvoid are more or less the same thing. Soloed by batman ? @y3kthunder: Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. The fact that you can't see that speaks to your own ignorance and closemindedness. Name: The Presence, the Source (In another belief system), Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, God Origin: DC Comics. Tier: High 1-A. If you want to be anonymous, don't enter your real name when you donate. @userthatisme: unfortunately not he is no troll he is dead serious in his beliefs same with the rest of the monitor fan base. This is either a micheal Julius alt or my favourite troll. Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. It is the Primal Monitor. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. I'm not sure I'm reading it correctly or you writing wrong darkest knight made sphere of gods shudder with his might,sphere of gods contains heaven,hell,skyland,apokalips new genesis etc The character debuted in More Fun Comics #52 (February 1940), and was created by Jerry Siegel and Bernard Baily Publication history. @userthatisme: A random Eonymous has overvoid on his desk and its threated like worthless trash. No, I was saying that all the things I said that are a part of the Presence are also a part of the writer. Not sure if the storyline is canon but i didnt see anthing saying it was not. The Presence, The Overvoid, and The Writer No, not asking for a Rumbles between these 3 entities. And it's mentioned that even God will return to the sleep of brahma. I should know because vlad from accounting Is omnipotent. Jetzt ist Cosmic Armor Superman im Grunde genommen von seiner besten Seite ein Oversversal (oder eine niedrigere Metaverse-Ebene), das für sich allein ist. The overvoid is the paper and the prescense is the writer. I said larfleeze can beat hotu thanos lol, @userthatisme: overvoid>>>>>>>mandrakk and cas >>>>>>>toaa/Presence< fiction. The Presence is a fictional character in comic books published by DC Comics. Thread starter Hykuu; Start date Nov 8, 2019; Tags dc comics monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the source Status Not open for further replies. @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. At the end of the issue, it was revealed that Overvoid was also the narrator of Wanderlust, having gained sentience through its own presence within the text. The Presence is a powerful being originating from the DC universe. Over Monitor Over monitor IS the overvoid, and the writers also established that the presence should be above the overvoid/void, tho he exists within the overvoid, he shouldn't be limited to it @tyr why ping me. Also if you had any analytical skills, you would know that I was just trolling and mocking xearfesay and Mj. But The writer acting through the Presence is what it is. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I think scp 3812 only loses to maybe lucifer but definitely the Presence, @userthatisme: given some time I'm sure I could give you a list that I think could potentially do the task. And yet you constantly do this with Morrison's personal opinions. CAS CANT BE FASTER THAN THE FASTEST MA ALIVE!! Which is to monitor the universes. The Writer and The Presence are practically the same. Both have different interpretation about DC comics. The Overvoid Lurk is a narrative entity appearing both as and within a text. Mandrakk Presence isnt even in top 5 charecters like writer,leviathan,utu,enlil,gilgamesh,overvoid exists,you watch to much youtube or something like that. Tyrannus 5 mo 3 d . You guys need to stop taking a writers personal opinion to the highest degree. They are the unseen "presence" with ultimate power over every story, bound behind their source wall (the fourth wall). I wasted my time with a vs battle fan calc guy. Funny we ignore that, but use his much needed number to justify High-1B for our DC profiles. It's a conscious unmanifest void. Considering they are still on paper. Save changes Preview Cancel. Or it … Basically my interpretation is that. He rarely helps the heroes or interferes with anything, except he brought back the Earth once when it was destroyed. I know this battle has been done before plenty of times, but whait I want to know is how can the OV be stronger than the Presence when it didn't even Sounds false. Sorry for the confusion. Because if so, this is taking "stop hitting yourself" to a whole new level. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. 40. The overvoid is a canvas of all DC creations. Snyder is not using Grant's version of the Source Wall, or anything else in the hierarchy. @userthatisme: in my opinion theyre worse and that's saying something cause I'll admit thanos is wanked they actually believe monitors solo everything absolutely everything. monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the writer tiering system Replies: 362; Forum: Content Revision; Tier upgrade for The eonymous. While Yahweh / Carey's Presence is the conscious, manifested, physical aspect of God within its own Dream. save. As a result, even beings such as The Presence, The Source and Monitor-Mind The Overvoid are aspects of it. Monitors and the like are a cool concept for the purpose they serve. Overvoid initially appeared as a copy of Intergalactic#8 within Intergalactic#8, discovered by the character Ignoble Steed. Empty Hand vs The Presence # Empty Hand When the moniter species did exist the preasence was debatable for being in the true overvoid via scaling above most of the species, but now that there dead and only overmoniter/moniter exists this means we cannot classify the preasence as beyond godsphere overvoid … Overvoid is, and never will be above The Presence. Above both is the race called the Eonymous. | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom FANDOM. Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. Prescense creates multiverses on it. Go. Nobody is big brain without saying a trash character is omnipotent like Zeno. Prayala is God's Unconsciousness and When she says absorb she literally says shes just the deep sleep which even god falls into. No. Based on that, I have to assume that the Beyonder and One Above All wins. I only see you wanking marvel and you never show feats for dc ever(or statements). @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. My question is simple: do any of these 3 have any usable on-panel Rumble feats at all? Even without the statement, the verses essentially can be stalemated like DC and SCP can stalemate completely. They are outsiders watching reality for entertainment which is the only reason they dont destroy it entirely iirc. Hykuu. In Morrrisons cosmology Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. Either way, The Presence is omnipotent and his true form is completely identical to the Overvoid, so The Presence wins this one since he is THE god. The Presence The Overmonitor is the canvas, The Presence is the writer. If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. Others said Overvoid written by Grant Morrison is supreme. Powers and Stats. If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. Also with the multiverse, if you like can you put the most powerful you have researched? Please click here if you are willing to help out. NOOOOO! Which is true as dematties thinks creation to be a dream and when god isn't dreaming that's pralaya. I have just learned now that the Presence isn’t truly omnipotent, although still far above Beyonder and Darkseid. Are you typing in a hurry? But I vaguely remember the Presence that he was shaped by external forces. I don’t see any tbh but give a good list of the ones you think can or you think are capable of. Lucifer and Michael are second to The Presence. All of the evidence points to Presence-Source-Overvoid/Pralaya being a divine trinity. XSUPREMEXSKILLZ. Unless I'm mistaken, didn't Mandrakk or the Overvoid view DC reality as a microbe in comparison to it? Loading editor. The Scan above just shows Eonymous to basically interpret us and yes he is above the Overvoid. 0 Kudos Antvasima. The same goes with The Writer. People genuinely think thanos with ig is ”omnipotent” and the fact they don’t know anything or just ignore feats for dc characters claiming a weak feat can beat x from dc from y of marvel. I see.. but you failed, CAS was already infinitely faster than you before you were even born. It has never been suggested that the Overvoid is superior to anything on it. Who wins? CatL18 . So,it is very difficult to compare. 67% Upvoted. The Overvoid is an aspect of The Presence. 1. All versions of supreme entities and abstracts like The Overvoid are apart of The Presence. Posted by 1 month ago. AnwaysOT: Epic, I just learnt of new characters. Kid spilling milk on it warps reality. @userthatisme: youtube is a funny place for debating, I like seeing what people say to me. 1 of 2 Go to page. Example: The Presence, the One Above All. Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. Overvoid 10/10 this fodder and his fodder verse. Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. 11 comments. Pralaya is not an aspect of the Overvoid. But due to it being marvel, nobody cares. I saw that when I searched them up. @userthatisme: The entire "paper" is on the desk of some random kid. Why/How would they fight. Don’t do it. 1; 2; Next. You kinda dumb ngl. She is the aspect of the non existence of the presence or his Unconsciousness taken form. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, also known as The Void, The Overmonitor and The Primal Monitor, is the ultimate source of all creation of the DC Comics Franchise. But in the real world, it is the comic book writer. But, I will vote for Tema2. T2 easily. Trying to become the fastest man alive.. Explore Wikis ... the Void was just part of the Presence? 01:28, February 19, 2019. If a writer has an idea for any creative stories they come up with, it is done through the Presence. Darkseid is by far the weakest of the four. Close. Please click here if you are willing to help out. Name: God, The One Above All, The Creator, The Oversoul, The Void Beyond All Voids, The Source, The Overvoid, Monitor-Mind, The Presence, among many others Origin: DC Comics. It's just a huge unknowable thing. The Presence vs Over Monitor # The Presence I wanted to know your opinion on this. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. And these are unquestionably the 3 most powerful entities (based on presentation) that DC ever published. The Presence is one of the supreme and essential creative forces of the DC Multiverse. Only Speedy Gonzales can outrun me, THE FLASH. Overvoid is merely a concept where the presence created everything and didn't interfere. People are just tending to make him look like a fodder which he isn't and I get it that overvoid is stronger than the presence but the presence isn't stronger than Toaa so imo Toaa wins against overvoid too. Do you even know what you are saying? That's how I have always seen it. To add to this I have an actual last image. time and time again I see better feats. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Discussions Monitor-Mind the Overvoid is the void of absolute nothingness that encompasses creation, standing outside of its deepest reaches, beyond all dual concepts and the stories which form around them, being the crumbling point in which all things cease to be, and the background of all stories and ideas within DC Comics itself. Now if we are to take the Overvoid seriously, I'd say he's the paper to be drawn on if anything. Also marvel is more wanked compared to DC wank(normally superman or darksied). Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. Bruh xea no offense but uh you do realize by saying pralaya is an aspect of the overvoid that you admit the overvoid is apart of the presence when asked matteis was very clear pralaya was apart of the presence and considering he made her I'ma take his word face palm, He’s a troll isn’t he? Nothing like this has ever been stated in DC. And it's mentioned that even God will return to the sleep of brahma. The One-Above-All vs Over Monitor # Over Monitor over monitor wins because the presence said that someone created him. Is the dc writer really apart of the presence? Many claim poplular lore is that its the Presence. Your assumptions are not evidence. It is the blank page a writer use to create miracles. hide. Presence is arguably at best equal to the Overvoid and arguably below it. ill stop sending this stuff now I just wanna know why do YouTube commenters claim this stuff? @xearesay: bruh matteis wrote that story pralaya is his character when asked he stayed she was apart of the presence he has written multiple story's about the presence and has always viewed him at the top again face palm his opinion matters right there, @y3kthunder: U mad Overvoid solos the Presence Overvoid was terrified of CAS who is the strongest character in all of fiction CAS can pull you into the comic book and beat you up so stop wanking. But nice reply to him, you really showed him, @userthatisme: alonis hates monitors or there fans he is poking fun, I didt read it I only read him saying Overvoid soloing presence. How am I wanking dc? While The presence is the hand and the pen. Wait I just noticed you aren’t saying anything true just jokes, sorry. It's a conscious unmanifest void. It is the canvas on which all creation then exists in. Wouldn’t that be an aspect of the Overvoid/paper? The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it.